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In this episode, you'll experience a deep-dive exploration into the aftermath of success in this riveting conversation with clinical psychologist and Vistage International Chair, Rick Eigenbrod. You’ll hear about the hidden challenges and implications of achieving your dreams - what happens when you finally get what you want? Rick's insightful book, "What Happens When You Get What You Want", serves as a guide as we navigate the complexities of achieving what we desire. Mike and Rick discuss the concept of "bundling" - the search for fulfillment beyond financial gain and the misconception that wealth equates to happiness. Rick and Mike share personal stories and examples showcasing the significant role of personal fulfillment in defining success. They go beyond the dollars and cents, illustrating the challenges and complexities that come with sudden wealth. They also discuss life after selling a business and the courage it takes to venture into something new. Finally, Rick challenges the societal narrative that equates success with material possessions and status. It's time we redefine success and acknowledge the journey that continues beyond the attainment of a goal. This episode wraps up with a call to live in the moment, breaking free from the illusion of a perfect future. This discussion promises to shift your perspective, offering a fresh look at success and what comes after. So, are you ready to redefine success? Tune in! Connect with Rick Eigenbrod: Website: rickeigenbrod.com Get Rick’s book: What Happens When You Get What You Want: https://www.amazon.com/What-Happens-When-You-Want/dp/0990021939 To Connect with Mike Malatesta: Website: https://mikemalatesta.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikemalatesta/ Get Mike’s book “Owner Shift”: https://mikemalatesta.com/owner-shift-book-by-mike-malatesta/

Watch the full episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiBSBU_rjs0 Subscribe to @ExitParadoxPodcast Rick Eigenbrod is a deeply respected thinker in the post-exit world. A clinical psychologist and co-author of the classic Yale paper What’s Next: The Entrepreneur’s Epilogue, he’s spent years guiding founders through life after the exit as an executive coach. In this conversation, we get into why Rick believes a “death of who we used to be” and a subsequent "re-birth" are inevitable post-exit, and how resisting these changes only adds to the struggle. Rick generously shares the tools and exercises he’s found most effective in navigating this transformative process. We also explore the grip of dopamine addiction, the healing power of legitimizing post-success frustration, simple ways to reconnect with our natural curiosity and playfulness, and the bittersweet reality of leaving some people behind as we experience exponential personal growth. Connect with Rick: Website - https://www.rickeigenbrod.com/ Connect with Anastasia: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/anastasiakoroleva/ X (Twitter) - https://x.com/AnasKoroleva Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/anastasiashoot Newsletter - https://www.exitparadox.com/blog #postexit #postexitparadox #fulfillment #purpose #growth #success #entrepreneur #cofounder #startup #opportunity #mindset #advice #life #motivation #truth #love #podcastersofinstagram anastasiakoroleva,exitparadox,postexit,liquidityevent,businesssale,postexitfounder,exitedfounder,exfounder,exiteer,exitwealth,exitlessons,postexitlessons,whatsnext,founders,entrepreneur,serialentrepreneur,startup,investing,investmentadvice You’re Searching for Purpose the WRONG Way After Success! Anastasia Koroleva with Rick Eigenbrod

What if your team’s “people problems” are actually design problems? In this episode, David Wheatley is joined by Dr. Judy Brown and Dr. Rick Eigenbrod to explore a leadership question that doesn’t get asked enough, how much of team performance comes down to structure, not personalities. You’ll hear why collaboration may be more natural than we think, how organizations accidentally get in the way of it, and what leaders can redesign to create real flow, clarity, and shared ownership, without forcing it. Topics include: Why structure can trump culture, strategy, and good intentions “Roundabouts vs stoplights,” a simple analogy for healthier systems Who gets in the room, and why one wrong seat can stall the whole team Boundary conditions, meeting design, and business literacy across leaders Reward systems, accountability, and the difference between ownership and compliance The inner work, maturity, ego, and what it takes to lead for the greater good Want to explore more tools like What Great Teams Do Great, join Humanergy’s Free Workshop Zoom session, held every month at noon Eastern, details at humanergy.com.

David Wheatley, Judy Brown, and Rick Eigenbrod discuss the challenges of leadership in times of turbulence, emphasizing the need for new approaches. They highlight the concept of "BANI" (Brittle, Anxious, Non-linear, Incomprehensible) as a replacement for VUCA, noting the familiarity and ineffectiveness of traditional terms. The conversation underscores the importance of leaders adapting to rapid change, fostering reflection and conversation as actionable steps, and encouraging a shift from seeking clarity to seeing things differently. They also explore the impact of AI on leadership, suggesting it should enhance human capabilities rather than replace them. Learn more about Humanergy's work: https://www.humanergy.com Sign up for our FREE leadership workshops: https://humanergy.com/first-fridays/

David is joined by Judy Brown and Rick Eigenbrod to build on Dr. Martin Luther King's letter from a Birmingham jail - and to ask what is the letter that only you can write? At the heart of the chat we ask what do you have to say to the world and challenge you to think about what you don't think about

David talks with Judy Brown and Rick Eigenbrod about how we can make good decisions about the health and welfare of our leaders. They delve into how loneliness is the emotion of isolation and how leaders can kick off their teams with some words to limit their isolation. There is a great article we found after recording that mirrors the sentiment... Give your boss a break: See the human behind the role by Kevin Kruse

David and Judy Brown talk about an experience they had where a jazz band was the keynote speaker at a quality conference and the leadership lessons that were drawn from the event

Judy Brown reads from her book, A Leaders Guide to Reflective Practice, a segment called, Cone-in-a-box. She talks about how dialogue can help us see a better truth.

David talks with Judy Brown and Rick Eigenbrod about finding patterns and coherence within chaos. Could you give you people three rules that would allow them to operate without you, have freedom and leave you comfortable about their delivery? We discuss what helps us see order amongst chaos and reference the work of Meg Wheatley (Leadership & The New Science)